It's a little sad, but Shortt seems to rip into anyone who disagrees with him, I just delete anything from him now. In any event, one wonders why he is acting this way? It doesn't make much sense to upset so many people over a car club? this isn't a life or death situation with the fate of the free world hanging in the balance. In the past, a lot of people probably would have done things differently from the POCA board's approach, but did anyone ever create this level of hostility? (maybe I just didn't pay attention?) Ken From: Konrad Szwab <kszwab@gmail.com> To: "msm@portata.com" <msm@portata.com> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Larry Finch <fresnofinches@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt and the Copyright issue Maybe we should file a harassment complaint to the local police jurisdiction against Mr. Shortt ? On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:50 PM, [1]msm@portata.com <[2]msm@portata.com> wrote: Again -- this email-based forum was never managed by POCA.A The only relationship between this forum and POCA is that for several years POCA donated computer hosting services.A It was managed solely by Andy, Asa Jay, and now Kurt out of their kindness and support for the greater De Tomaso community. Kurt, please reword this About DeTomaso section for remove the POCA reference. Also the footer on the emails should change from A A Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA to something like: A A The DeTomaso Forum is not managed by POCA. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Larry Finch via DeTomaso" <[3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To: "Email List Address For Posting" <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: 6/27/2016 8:26:45 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Kurt and the Copyright issue >All, > >The new host of this email list, Kurt, has been threatened with legal >action regarding the copyright on postings made to this forum when it >was hosted by POCA. > >I attach to this email a screen capture from the email list when it was >still hosted by POCA. Note the following contained in the first >section: > >aContent of this email list is not copyrighted by any individual or >entity, including POCA.a > >I think that pretty much means there is no legal standing for >copyright-violation lawsuit. > >Larry > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:msm@portata.com 2. mailto:msm@portata.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. It's a little sad, but Shortt seems to rip into anyone who disagrees with him, I just delete anything from him now. In any event, one wonders why he is acting this way? It doesn't make much sense to upset so many people over a car club? this isn't a life or death situation with the fate of the free world hanging in the balance. In the past, a lot of people probably would have done things differently from the POCA board's approach, but did anyone ever create this level of hostility? (maybe I just didn't pay attention?) Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Konrad Szwab <kszwab@gmail.com> To: "msm@portata.com" <msm@portata.com> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Larry Finch <fresnofinches@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt and the Copyright issue Maybe we should file a harassment complaint to the local police jurisdiction against Mr. Shortt ? On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:50 PM, [1][1]msm@portata.com <[2][2]msm@portata.com> wrote: Again -- this email-based forum was never managed by POCA.A The only relationship between this forum and POCA is that for several years POCA donated computer hosting services.A It was managed solely by Andy, Asa Jay, and now Kurt out of their kindness and support for the greater De Tomaso community. Kurt, please reword this About DeTomaso section for remove the POCA reference. Also the footer on the emails should change from A A Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA to something like: A A The DeTomaso Forum is not managed by POCA. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Larry Finch via DeTomaso" <[3][3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To: "Email List Address For Posting" <[4][4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: 6/27/2016 8:26:45 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Kurt and the Copyright issue >All, > >The new host of this email list, Kurt, has been threatened with legal >action regarding the copyright on postings made to this forum when it >was hosted by POCA. > >I attach to this email a screen capture from the email list when it was >still hosted by POCA. Note the following contained in the first >section: > >aContent of this email list is not copyrighted by any individual or >entity, including POCA.a > >I think that pretty much means there is no legal standing for >copyright-violation lawsuit. > >Larry > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5][5]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [6][6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:[7]msm@portata.com 2. mailto:[8]msm@portata.com 3. mailto:[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:[11]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. [12]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:msm@portata.com 2. mailto:msm@portata.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 7. mailto:msm@portata.com 8. mailto:msm@portata.com 9. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 13. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso