Sorry Thomas. I said Mac OS-X (not MacOS which was jettisoned long ago). Mac OS-X is most certainly Linux. Not belabor the point, but I have the complete history, where when and why if you are interested. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: Thomas Törnblom <tipo874@gmail.com<mailto:tipo874@gmail.com>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:10 AM To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> Cc: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com<mailto:asajay@asajay.com>>, Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>, Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10 update onto PCs Sorry Terry, MacOS is definitely not Linux. 😜 Based on BSD/Mach AFAIK, so closer to Solaris than Linux, which I know you like, or at least used to like 😬 I still enjoy seeing clips from various Mission Controls and seeing Sun branded monitors and keyboards. Cheers, Thomas 20 maj 2016 kl. 19:41 skrev Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>>: Welcome to WWM. Wonderful World of Microsoft. I don't like Apple either, but Mac's run Linux (OS-X) and I LOVE LOVE LOVE Unix. Best development system ever. And always has been since the release of the Mach3 Kernel. Very stable and easy to maintain. IMHO Make the switch. You will never go back. We are almost 99% Mac's within JPL. PS - I run Windoze7 in a Vmware virtual machine (VM) within my Mac. NEVER had a problem over the last ~5 years. Best $50 I ever spent. (I have 2 Apps that only run on Windoze) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton <[3]asajay@asajay.com<mailto:asajay@asajay.com>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:55 AM To: Larry Stock <[4]larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Cc: "[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>, Ken Green <[7]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10 update onto PCs Why do I feel like making a shortt joke here? Yes, I got the popup on one of my home machines and I usually just dismiss it until I have time to remove the KB update -again- (why does Microsoft keep overiding my wishes)... Except -this- time instead of dismissing it, it automatically scheduled the upgrade. I was like...WTF? I had to manually unschedule it. Now I'm fearful its automatically doing it to that home computer while I'm at work. Not cool. Asa Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Larry Stock <[8]larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> wrote: Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in our network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing company that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10 don^1t offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures that nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck with Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data logger that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows program for him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us a choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is going to screw up manufactures all over the country today. Larry On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of [10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. 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Sorry Thomas. I said Mac OS-X (not MacOS which was jettisoned long ago). Mac OS-X is most certainly Linux. Not belabor the point, but I have the complete history, where when and why if you are interested. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: Thomas Toernblom <[2]tipo874@gmail.com> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:10 AM To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Cc: Asa Jay Laughton <[4]asajay@asajay.com>, Larry Stock <[5]larrys@panteraparts.com>, "[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green <[8]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10 update onto PCs Sorry Terry, MacOS is definitely not Linux. Based on BSD/Mach AFAIK, so closer to Solaris than Linux, which I know you like, or at least used to like I still enjoy seeing clips from various Mission Controls and seeing Sun branded monitors and keyboards. Cheers, Thomas 20 maj 2016 kl. 19:41 skrev Himes, Terry (397C) <[9]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>: Welcome to WWM. Wonderful World of Microsoft. I don't like Apple either, but Mac's run Linux (OS-X) and I LOVE LOVE LOVE Unix. Best development system ever. And always has been since the release of the Mach3 Kernel. Very stable and easy to maintain. IMHO Make the switch. You will never go back. We are almost 99% Mac's within JPL. PS - I run Windoze7 in a Vmware virtual machine (VM) within my Mac. NEVER had a problem over the last ~5 years. Best $50 I ever spent. (I have 2 Apps that only run on Windoze) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][10]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2][11]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton <[3][12]asajay@asajay.com> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:55 AM To: Larry Stock <[4][13]larrys@panteraparts.com> Cc: "[5][14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[6][15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>, Ken Green <[7][16]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC: Microsoft is sneaking the Windows 10 update onto PCs Why do I feel like making a shortt joke here? Yes, I got the popup on one of my home machines and I usually just dismiss it until I have time to remove the KB update -again- (why does Microsoft keep overiding my wishes)... Except -this- time instead of dismissing it, it automatically scheduled the upgrade. I was like...WTF? I had to manually unschedule it. Now I'm fearful its automatically doing it to that home computer while I'm at work. Not cool. Asa Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Larry Stock <[8][17]larrys@panteraparts.com> wrote: Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in our network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing company that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10 don^1t offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures that nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck with Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data logger that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows program for him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us a choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is going to screw up manufactures all over the country today. Larry On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <[9][18]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [10][19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. 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