Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:
Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
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Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
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From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ [[4]cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [[5]4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: Terry Himes [6]<[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time [7]<[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' [8]<[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' [9]<[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, [10]"[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [11]<[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers. But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][12]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later... "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [[13]12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso [14]<[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time [15]<[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' [16]<[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' [17]<[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, [18]"[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [19]<[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19][20]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [[21]20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso [22]<[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko [23]<[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [[24]23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24][25]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote: 71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but the deck was really hot to the touch. Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but would like the real protection of an insulator. 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