On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas when we brake!
Julian ________________________________________ From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew'; detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>; Julian Kift Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to loosen
An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of 19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2 and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6 x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Larry Weston [lplugw@hotmail.com] Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM To: guson@home.se Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case, there are four of them. Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson <guson@home.se<mailto:guson@home.se>> wrote: A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the weight of the car. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Larry Weston [lplugw@hotmail.com<mailto:lplugw@hotmail.com>] Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com> Cc: MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>;detomaso@detomasolist.com<ma ilto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to think about it to much I decided. Sent from my iPhone the axle nut??
M -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift
<julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? To: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm@qwest.net<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>>, "'Mike
Drew'" <MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>, "detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>>
Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
Doug,
Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise motion of the axle would want to undo it!
Julian
________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server .detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Douglas Kelm <dakelm@qwest.net<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM To: 'Mike Drew'; detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
I would think that the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the left side of the vehicle. Think of the nut being stationary while the axle (on the drivers side) rotates counter clockwise (looking from outside the car), meaning the nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is the desired situation. Of course, there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely full of "it"!
Doug
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM To: detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Hi guys,
I thought I would lead off with he first technical question on the new forum.
The rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and 'right' respectively. But that speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse thread, left to tighten)
It's my belief that the S or left-tighten axle goes on the left side of the car but I can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or deny?
Thanks!
And welcome back!
Mike
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http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. An M6 screw has a core diameter of 5 mm. A 5 mm dia rod has an area of 19.6 mm2. An ordinare 8.8 grade screw has a yield strength of 640 N/mm2 and a tensile strength of 800 N/mm2. 19.6 x 640 N is 12544 N whis is a little less than what a Pantera would require to be lifted in all. 19.6 x 800 is 15680 N which is enough with a margin. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Larry Weston [lplugw@hotmail.com] Sent: 22/5/2016 2:15:10 AM To: guson@home.se Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? Ok. Not sure about the physics of all of it, but if that's the case, there are four of them. Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Tomas Gunnarsson <guson@home.se<mailto:guson@home.se>> wrote: A single six mm diameter screw itself is just about able to lift the weight of the car. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Larry Weston [lplugw@hotmail.com<mailto:lplugw@hotmail.com>] Sent: 20/5/2016 10:49:42 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com> Cc: MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>;detomaso@detomasolist.com<m ailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? That being said, I have sometimes wondered about the faith we put in that 1/8" thick bearing retainer plate we secure with four six mm diameter flathead screws. That seems like a weak link. Best not to think about it to much I decided. Sent from my iPhone
On May 20, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
The axle nut is on there at 450 ft/lb but it is only keeping the axle tight in the inner race of the wheel bearings, rotational freedom being within the bearings and even though you are braking hard the axle is still rotating in a forward direction, plus the axle inner flange/half shaft is splined to the axle shaft and most of us do let of the gas when we brake!
Julian ________________________________________ From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:16 PM To: Douglas Kelm; 'Mike Drew'; detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>; Julian Kift Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Okay...really dumb question here. Wouldn't hard braking want to loosen the axle nut??
M -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/20/16, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side? To: "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm@qwest.net<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>>, "'Mike Drew'" <MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>, "detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:12 PM
Doug,
Remember the axle nut is on the inside of the wheel in this case, if it were RH then the counter clockwise motion of the axle would want to undo it!
Julian
________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@serve r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Douglas Kelm <dakelm@qwest.net<mailto:dakelm@qwest.net>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:52 PM To: 'Mike Drew'; detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
I would think that the "righty tighty" threads (normal) go on the left side of the vehicle. Think of the nut being stationary while the axle (on the drivers side) rotates counter clockwise (looking from outside the car), meaning the nut wants to self tighten (rotate clockwise), which is the desired situation. Of course, there's a 50/50 chance that I'm completely full of "it"!
Doug
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 PM To: detomaso@detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Which axles on which side?
Hi guys,
I thought I would lead off with he first technical question on the new forum.
The rear axles are marked S and D, for 'left' and 'right' respectively. But that speaks to the thread direction (one of them is reverse thread, left to tighten)
It's my belief that the S or left-tighten axle goes on the left side of the car but I can't remember for sure. Can somebody confirm or deny?
Thanks!
And welcome back!
Mike
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