Rob, Don't be mean, meant mean more them meat. Well mostly. Larry (mmmmm) - Cleveland _____ From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob@dumoulins.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:55 PM To: Larry - Ohio Time Cc: audionut@hushmail.com; Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions "Paying for meat?" That just sounds dirty. Care to elaborate? On Aug 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> wrote: << "off-color" humor >> Does this meat we will need to pay more to see it in color? Larry (blind to all this) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@ <mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of audionut@hushmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:14 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist. <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions With all due respect to those who'd like the content of this forum to be in accordance with their personal preference ..... I say let 'er rip. There are no "trolls" here. (Well, maybe me....sometimes I poke fun at people offline who take offense at benign, silly things like occasional "off-color" humor.) I like all the POCA discussions, arguments, brouhaha, etc., be they endless or not. It's nice to know what's going on, even if we don't ever quite figure that out. People need to hash things out. This is normal and healthy among passionate people who care about things. If this scares off anyone, then let 'em be scared off. I mean, is this is a real car club with real people in it? Or is it afternoon tea-time with the bridge club? Things are going to get messy from time to time, perhaps even a bit nasty. So be it. This is why we all (hopefully) have a fire extinguisher inside our cars-- the damned thing could catch fire at any moment. (Mine did just a couple of months ago.) Apparently our former Prez sparked a hell of a fire here. Well alright then. We dealt with it. No big deal. Thanks again to the BOD who did the dirty work of putting it out. Yet the embers still smolder... Shortt is a fiery guy who evidently did some good things for the club......okay he wound up self-immolating in the process but.... oh well. I see no reason to hate the guy. The lawsuit threats were just pitiful, really. I feel kinda bad for the guy if he was feeling cornered and attacked to the extent he resorted to all that nonsense. Hopefully, his love of the Pantera outshines his unpleasant experience with POCA and he continues to enjoy the car as well as other people who love it. (btw, Facebook makes me nauseous for some odd reason. Haven't been on it since around 2009. I visit only reluctantly when details of certain social events can't be known about any other way.) Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2016 at 1:26 PM, "Ed Mendez" wrote:Hi all, This email forum is not POCA nor is it run by POCA. It is run by Kurt and it is the Pantera community, many of whom are not in the club and all this arguing does not look good to prospective members. I recommend that you please take this discussion and address it on the poca.com forum. I believe this was suggested about 200 emails ago, maybe 300. The folks on here want to talk about Pantera stuff, like wheels, and wiring, and fun, and Monterey and fun, and going fast and fun, and car shows and fun. Get my point? Don't shoot the messenger, I believe I am not wrong in this thinking. But I know I'm going to get it anyway. :-) Have a great Pantera day. The POCA PR dude. :-) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist. <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> com http://server.detomasolist. <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Rob, Don't be mean, meant mean more them meat. Well mostly... Larry (mmmmm) - Cleveland _______________________________________________________________________ From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob@dumoulins.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:55 PM To: Larry - Ohio Time Cc: audionut@hushmail.com; Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions "Paying for meat?" That just sounds dirty. Care to elaborate? On Aug 17, 2016 5:06 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <[1]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> wrote: << "off-color" humor >> Does this meat we will need to pay more to see it in color? Larry (blind to all this) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of [3]audionut@hushmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:14 PM To: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] forum rule: No POCA discussions With all due respect to those who'd like the content of this forum to be in accordance with their personal preference ..... I say let 'er rip. There are no "trolls" here. (Well, maybe me....sometimes I poke fun at people offline who take offense at benign, silly things like occasional "off-color" humor.) I like all the POCA discussions, arguments, brouhaha, etc., be they endless or not. It's nice to know what's going on, even if we don't ever quite figure that out. People need to hash things out. This is normal and healthy among passionate people who care about things. If this scares off anyone, then let 'em be scared off. I mean, is this is a real car club with real people in it? Or is it afternoon tea-time with the bridge club? Things are going to get messy from time to time, perhaps even a bit nasty. So be it. This is why we all (hopefully) have a fire extinguisher inside our cars-- the damned thing could catch fire at any moment. (Mine did just a couple of months ago.) Apparently our former Prez sparked a hell of a fire here. Well alright then. We dealt with it. No big deal. Thanks again to the BOD who did the dirty work of putting it out. Yet the embers still smolder... Shortt is a fiery guy who evidently did some good things for the club......okay he wound up self-immolating in the process but.... oh well. I see no reason to hate the guy. The lawsuit threats were just pitiful, really. I feel kinda bad for the guy if he was feeling cornered and attacked to the extent he resorted to all that nonsense. Hopefully, his love of the Pantera outshines his unpleasant experience with POCA and he continues to enjoy the car as well as other people who love it. (btw, Facebook makes me nauseous for some odd reason. Haven't been on it since around 2009. I visit only reluctantly when details of certain social events can't be known about any other way.) Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2016 at 1:26 PM, "Ed Mendez" wrote:Hi all, This email forum is not POCA nor is it run by POCA. It is run by Kurt and it is the Pantera community, many of whom are not in the club and all this arguing does not look good to prospective members. I recommend that you please take this discussion and address it on the [5]poca.com forum. I believe this was suggested about 200 emails ago, maybe 300. The folks on here want to talk about Pantera stuff, like wheels, and wiring, and fun, and Monterey and fun, and going fast and fun, and car shows and fun. Get my point? Don't shoot the messenger, I believe I am not wrong in this thinking. But I know I'm going to get it anyway. :-) Have a great Pantera day. The POCA PR dude. :-) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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