During the show they said $10k for the truck plus the cleanup of the engine. It looks like they have built an amateurish, over weight, under engineered version of the Noble M400. The Nobles are about 50k used with less than 30k miles and they will start theirs north of 100k. What kind of body man would finish weld a large expanse of thin metal and only find the distortion when they tried to install it. Competent sheet metal welding is all about not distorting the product because of the heat. Reality TV is expensive and from another planet. Just my musings, jerry knotts On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote:
Only 27 pounds lighter than a Coyote? I was trying to remember what they paid? there is a used V6 on ebay with 22K miles for $3,500 and a new one from Summit for $9,500. Ken __________________________________________________________________
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich@gmail.com>; "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud So 417 lbs without accessory drive and turbos, manifolds, intercooler.... yeah they saved a lot of weight with that switch! Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Engine weight 417 lbs. Jeff 6559 Product Description Ford Performance 365 Horsepower 3.5L EcoBoost Crate Engine Kit. Ford Performance has released their 3.5L EcoBoost crate engine for those that are building a vehicle from scratch or need a replacement engine for their F-150. This amazing six cylinder engine boasts a mind blowing 365 HP and 420 TQ. Direct-injection and turbocharging both help the relatively small engine to pump out the power. Ford's Ti-VCT (Variable Cam Timing) technology optimizes fuel economy, performance and emissions. This EcoBoost engine is designed for maximum operating efficiency. *Engine Specs and Features:* - 365 Horsepower @ 5,000 RPM - 420 lb. ft. of torque @ 2,500 RPM - 10.0:1 compression ratio - High pressure direct fuel injection - Regular unleaded fuel recommended - All aluminum construction - Dual overhead camshafts with variable camshaft timing - Lightweight die-cast aluminum block with six-bolt press-fit main bearing caps with piston-cooling jets - Fully counterweighted forged steel crankshaft - High-strength forged powder metal connecting rods with floating pins - Lightweight aluminum high-strength pistons with low-friction skirt coating - Tuned composite upper and lower intake manifold - Dual water cooled Honeywell/Garrett GT15 turbochargers - 6 quart die-cast aluminum deep sump oil pan - Engine weight is 417 lbs. (without accessory drive) On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Jeff Detrich <[4]jjdetrich@gmail.com> wrote: > I think a bare body is about 550 pounds. Not very heavy. > > Jeff > 6559 > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. < > [5]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> six guys can carry the body. > > > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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During the show they said $10k for the truck plus the cleanup of the engine. It looks like they have built an amateurish, over weight, under engineered version of the Noble M400. The Nobles are about 50k used with less than 30k miles and they will start theirs north of 100k. What kind of body man would finish weld a large expanse of thin metal and only find the distortion when they tried to install it. Competent sheet metal welding is all about not distorting the product because of the heat. Reality TV is expensive and from another planet. Just my musings, jerry knotts On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: Only 27 pounds lighter than a Coyote? I was trying to remember what they paid? there is a used V6 on ebay with 22K miles for $3,500 and a new one from Summit for $9,500. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Julian Kift [1]<julian_kift@hotmail.com> To: Jeff Detrich [2]<jjdetrich@gmail.com>; "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." [3]<byrdjf@embarqmail.com> Cc: [4]"detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [5]<detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud So 417 lbs without accessory drive and turbos, manifolds, intercooler.... yeah they saved a lot of weight with that switch! Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso [6]<[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jeff Detrich [7]<[2]jjdetrich@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: [[8]3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Engine weight 417 lbs. Jeff 6559 Product Description Ford Performance 365 Horsepower 3.5L EcoBoost Crate Engine Kit. Ford Performance has released their 3.5L EcoBoost crate engine for those that are building a vehicle from scratch or need a replacement engine for their F-150. This amazing six cylinder engine boasts a mind blowing 365 HP and 420 TQ. Direct-injection and turbocharging both help the relatively small engine to pump out the power. Ford's Ti-VCT (Variable Cam Timing) technology optimizes fuel economy, performance and emissions. This EcoBoost engine is designed for maximum operating efficiency. *Engine Specs and Features:* - 365 Horsepower @ 5,000 RPM - 420 lb. ft. of torque @ 2,500 RPM - 10.0:1 compression ratio - High pressure direct fuel injection - Regular unleaded fuel recommended - All aluminum construction - Dual overhead camshafts with variable camshaft timing - Lightweight die-cast aluminum block with six-bolt press-fit main bearing caps with piston-cooling jets - Fully counterweighted forged steel crankshaft - High-strength forged powder metal connecting rods with floating pins - Lightweight aluminum high-strength pistons with low-friction skirt coating - Tuned composite upper and lower intake manifold - Dual water cooled Honeywell/Garrett GT15 turbochargers - 6 quart die-cast aluminum deep sump oil pan - Engine weight is 417 lbs. (without accessory drive) On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Jeff Detrich [9]<[4]jjdetrich@gmail.com> wrote: > I think a bare body is about 550 pounds. Not very heavy. > > Jeff > 6559 > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. < > [[10]5]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> six guys can carry the body. > > > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [[11]6]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [7][12]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. [13]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 2. [14]mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com 3. [15]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. [16]mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com 5. 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