I have been a sometimes member of POCA and have not always been ecstatic regarding what POCA provides to members, but what bothers me is the lack of respect for the contributions of others. Several folks have spent years supporting the community, and even if you disagree with their ideas, they still deserve respect for their contributions, without which, there would be no POCA. Ken From: Hp <iamhp005@gmail.com> To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com> Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA If we practiced placing principles above personalities, we would actually be a car club that sets a good example instead of being one that is a BAD example. Bruce On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Kimball <[1]chrisvkimball@msn.com> wrote: It is very sad. In a perfect world, people would talk to each other calmly, apologize when appropriate, and work out a compromise agreeing to disagree when necessary. Eventually this will all blow over, but in the meantime it's painful, especially when I really enjoy all the members of POCA I know. Sure, I don't agree with everyone, but I appreciate hearing different perspectives and opinions. The key is to be kind. Sincerely, Chris From: [2]robpink2012@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:35:52 -0500 To: [3]julian_kift@hotmail.com CC: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA If this was Facebook I would be liking Julian's post On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I am lost for appropriate words, what a sad day when a car club website is completely shutdown due to a dispute within the elected BOD. Julian ________________________________________________________________ __ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7]byrdjf@embarqmail.com <javascript:;>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:48 PM To: [8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA Message on home page "We regret to inform you that the website is temporarily offline while a dispute within the POCA Board of Directors is resolved. All content and data on the website (including your personal information) is secure and protected." -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1][9]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:59 PM To: [10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA It is not just You. I was about to ask the same question, thinking I might have been blocked since my membership expires next week -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2][11]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Mark Pinson Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:01 PM To: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA Now I get a message "Website is not active" and "Website is offline" - is it just me? Glad I'm not an advertiser, but sorry I'm a member. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> [3][1][14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I have been a sometimes member of POCA and have not always been ecstatic regarding what POCA provides to members, but what bothers me is the lack of respect for the contributions of others. Several folks have spent years supporting the community, and even if you disagree with their ideas, they still deserve respect for their contributions, without which, there would be no POCA. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Hp <iamhp005@gmail.com> To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com> Cc: Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA If we practiced placing principles above personalities, we would actually be a car club that sets a good example instead of being one that is a BAD example. Bruce On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Kimball <[1][1]chrisvkimball@msn.com> wrote: It is very sad. In a perfect world, people would talk to each other calmly, apologize when appropriate, and work out a compromise agreeing to disagree when necessary. Eventually this will all blow over, but in the meantime it's painful, especially when I really enjoy all the members of POCA I know. Sure, I don't agree with everyone, but I appreciate hearing different perspectives and opinions. The key is to be kind. Sincerely, Chris From: [2][2]robpink2012@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:35:52 -0500 To: [3][3]julian_kift@hotmail.com CC: [4][4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA If this was Facebook I would be liking Julian's post On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Julian Kift <[5][5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I am lost for appropriate words, what a sad day when a car club website is completely shutdown due to a dispute within the elected BOD. Julian ________________________________________________________________ __ From: DeTomaso <[6][6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7][7]byrdjf@embarqmail.com <javascript:;>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:48 PM To: [8][8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA Message on home page "We regret to inform you that the website is temporarily offline while a dispute within the POCA Board of Directors is resolved. All content and data on the website (including your personal information) is secure and protected." -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1][9]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:59 PM To: [10][10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA It is not just You. I was about to ask the same question, thinking I might have been blocked since my membership expires next week -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2][11]mailto:[11]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Mark Pinson Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 19:01 PM To: [12][12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Something is up at POCA Now I get a message "Website is not active" and "Website is offline" - is it just me? Glad I'm not an advertiser, but sorry I'm a member. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [13][13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> [3][1][14][14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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