
This is getting old! Why not just Delete any Email that has any Pantera content that came from MS? Would that work? SadThe other Curt On Monday, June 27, 2016 9:32 AM, Richard Greenblum <Richard@richardgreenblum.com> wrote: I'm a construction lawyer, but I office with two entertainment lawyers. The answer I got to copyright protection (in the music industry) is simple. The copyright is created when the work takes a tangible form. However, it is not enforceable until it is registered. If there is an application of the law as to creative work to the email forum, suit cannot be filed regarding any copyright that may have been created unless someone registered it. As has been noted before, this forum may not lend itself to any copyright claims due to its open and free nature. Richard Austin, TX #7080 From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 18:54 To: Jeff Cobb <[4]jeffcobb1@me.com>, Pantdino <[5]pantdino@aol.com> Cc: "[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! You can look at this government publication: [1][8]http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf Starting at the bottom of page 3: How to Secure a Copyright Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. See the following note. There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See Copyright Registration on page 7. and on page 7: a-c- Before an infringement suit may be filed in court, registration is necessary for works of U. S. origin. There is a safe harbor for fair use. If you take just part of a copyrighted work, and repost it commenting on it, it should fall within the safe harbor. So, for example, if someone running for an elected position, had made posts which might reflect on his suitability for the position, you should be able to repost portions of interest along with your comments. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Jeff Cobb <[9]jeffcobb1@me.com> To: Pantdino <[10]pantdino@aol.com> Cc: [11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! Not true, Jim Oddie, in Louisiana and most if not all of USA. A person must apply, sign documents and pay for the security of the copyright law with The Secretary of State. I own four copyrights and trademarks. Yet the trademark for my 34 year old business name would be mine regardless of paperwork because it has and is fact that I should own it by reason of domain. Jeff Cobb On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <[2][12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > I am not a copyright lawyer, but my understanding is that as soon as > someone creates something, that person has the copyright to it. So if > I write a post describing "how I change the coolant in my Pantera," I > have the copyright to that unless I specifically sign it over to > someone else. This is the issue the musicians of the '60's and '70's > clarified when they said they owned the music they wrote and the record > companies said they did. The courts found for the musicians. > > So I don't see how anyone has the copyright to a bunch of various posts > written by individuals as friends. So unless someone or some company > is the official owner of the list and they have warned everyone who > posts on it that they then hold the copyright to whatever is written > there, the idea of a lawsuit does not make sense. And who, exactly, is > the owner and how would one assign monetary damages to the copyright > infringement? If the owner is the Club, the President could only file > a lawsuit in compliance with the Club charter, which I'm sure does > include that. > > Jim Oddie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[3][13]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> > Cc: detomaso <[4][14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2016 10:21 am > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! > If the problem is "your list" is in violation of something, and the > "list" > consist of all of "us", then including the list/us seems appropriate in > such discussions. > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [[1][15]mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > Of Jeff Cobb > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 13:08 PM > To: [2][6][16]audionut@hushmail.com > Cc: [3][7][17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! > Thank you sir, audionut, for some clarity. > Maybe this thread-neurosis may come to an end. > And Kurt, if this belief and understandable worry ***Apparently, "my" > list > is violating copyrights,**** is worth a minute of your thought, then > write > and ask your accuser and cc the group to have your accuser state if > you-us > are or if you-us are not apparently doing a wrong. > SIMPLE and if this person does not respond then you have your answer. > Since you seem unclear and worried then YOU MUST have your problem > watchdog > person state if what you-us are doing is wrong. > CLARITY WILL KILL THIS FEAR. > No induced problem, no wrong and no accuser then all is well. > Not all dogs bite. > Know where you are walking. > Lawyers will just f**k small things up. > This perceived issue is just a 5 hr pimple not skin cancer. > Keep the lawyers at bay for the big problems. > Jeff Cobb > ----------------------------------------------------- > On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:37 AM, [4][8][18]audionut@hushmail.com wrote: >> Relax. This is ludicrous. Absolutely nothing to worry about. No need >> to hassle incorporating the forum. >> >> >> Disturbed, snippety people scare others with legal threats because > it's >> so easy. My schizophrenic, homeless sister does it from time to time, >> threatening my family with legal action ever since my Dad cut her out >> of his will over 20 years ago. He died in 1996 but to this day she >> still pulls this one out of her crazy bag and lobs it at us. >> >> >> The law is frighteningly confusing to most people and we all know > that >> many lawyers are, shall we say, less than scrupulous so people tend > to >> get a bit scared when threatened with the expensive, complicated, > dark >> world of the lawsuit. >> >> >> Don't waste a dime or another thought worrying about this nonsense-- >> >> >> But, if you are truly worried and losing sleep over this, go pay a >> lawyer $100 and he/she will tell you the same thing. >> Sent using Hushmail >> On June 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[5][9][19]jjdetrich@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Kurt, >> I'm not a lawyer, but you might think about forming a corporation to >> run >> the email list. It's an inexpensive way to protect your personal >> assets >> should this get ugly and I would think most of us would be glad to >> fund the >> cost. >> Jeff - I can't believe we are having this discussion >> 6559 >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Kurt Byrnes <[6][10][20]kdb@kbyrnes.com> > wrote: >>> Just so everyone is aware, I was sent another email last night >> warning me >>> to hire an lawyer. Apparently, "my" list is violating copyrights. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> [7][11][21]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >>> [1][8][12][22]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >> etc.) use >>> the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >> any >>> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >> or approve >>> the archiving of list messages. >>> >> >> References >> >> 1. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. This is getting old! Why not just Delete any Email that has any Pantera content that came from MS? Would that work? Sad The other Curt On Monday, June 27, 2016 9:32 AM, Richard Greenblum <Richard@richardgreenblum.com> wrote: I'm a construction lawyer, but I office with two entertainment lawyers. The answer I got to copyright protection (in the music industry) is simple. The copyright is created when the work takes a tangible form. However, it is not enforceable until it is registered. If there is an application of the law as to creative work to the email forum, suit cannot be filed regarding any copyright that may have been created unless someone registered it. As has been noted before, this forum may not lend itself to any copyright claims due to its open and free nature. Richard Austin, TX #7080 From: DeTomaso <[1][1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][3]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 18:54 To: Jeff Cobb <[4][4]jeffcobb1@me.com>, Pantdino <[5][5]pantdino@aol.com> Cc: "[6][6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[7][7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! You can look at this government publication: [1][8][8]http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf Starting at the bottom of page 3: How to Secure a Copyright Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. See the following note. There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See Copyright Registration on page 7. and on page 7: a-c- Before an infringement suit may be filed in court, registration is necessary for works of U. S. origin. There is a safe harbor for fair use. If you take just part of a copyrighted work, and repost it commenting on it, it should fall within the safe harbor. So, for example, if someone running for an elected position, had made posts which might reflect on his suitability for the position, you should be able to repost portions of interest along with your comments. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Jeff Cobb <[9][9]jeffcobb1@me.com> To: Pantdino <[10][10]pantdino@aol.com> Cc: [11][11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! Not true, Jim Oddie, in Louisiana and most if not all of USA. A person must apply, sign documents and pay for the security of the copyright law with The Secretary of State. I own four copyrights and trademarks. Yet the trademark for my 34 year old business name would be mine regardless of paperwork because it has and is fact that I should own it by reason of domain. Jeff Cobb On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <[2][12][12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: > I am not a copyright lawyer, but my understanding is that as soon as > someone creates something, that person has the copyright to it. So if > I write a post describing "how I change the coolant in my Pantera," I > have the copyright to that unless I specifically sign it over to > someone else. This is the issue the musicians of the '60's and '70's > clarified when they said they owned the music they wrote and the record > companies said they did. The courts found for the musicians. > > So I don't see how anyone has the copyright to a bunch of various posts > written by individuals as friends. So unless someone or some company > is the official owner of the list and they have warned everyone who > posts on it that they then hold the copyright to whatever is written > there, the idea of a lawsuit does not make sense. And who, exactly, is > the owner and how would one assign monetary damages to the copyright > infringement? If the owner is the Club, the President could only file > a lawsuit in compliance with the Club charter, which I'm sure does > include that. > > Jim Oddie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[3][13][13]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> > Cc: detomaso <[4][14][14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2016 10:21 am > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! > If the problem is "your list" is in violation of something, and the > "list" > consist of all of "us", then including the list/us seems appropriate in > such discussions. > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [[1][15]mailto:[5][15]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > Of Jeff Cobb > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 13:08 PM > To: [2][6][16][16]audionut@hushmail.com > Cc: [3][7][17][17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Again with the threats! > Thank you sir, audionut, for some clarity. > Maybe this thread-neurosis may come to an end. > And Kurt, if this belief and understandable worry ***Apparently, "my" > list > is violating copyrights,**** is worth a minute of your thought, then > write > and ask your accuser and cc the group to have your accuser state if > you-us > are or if you-us are not apparently doing a wrong. > SIMPLE and if this person does not respond then you have your answer. > Since you seem unclear and worried then YOU MUST have your problem > watchdog > person state if what you-us are doing is wrong. > CLARITY WILL KILL THIS FEAR. > No induced problem, no wrong and no accuser then all is well. > Not all dogs bite. > Know where you are walking. > Lawyers will just f**k small things up. > This perceived issue is just a 5 hr pimple not skin cancer. > Keep the lawyers at bay for the big problems. > Jeff Cobb > ----------------------------------------------------- > On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:37 AM, [4][8][18][18]audionut@hushmail.com wrote: >> Relax. This is ludicrous. Absolutely nothing to worry about. No need >> to hassle incorporating the forum. >> >> >> Disturbed, snippety people scare others with legal threats because > it's >> so easy. My schizophrenic, homeless sister does it from time to time, >> threatening my family with legal action ever since my Dad cut her out >> of his will over 20 years ago. He died in 1996 but to this day she >> still pulls this one out of her crazy bag and lobs it at us. >> >> >> The law is frighteningly confusing to most people and we all know > that >> many lawyers are, shall we say, less than scrupulous so people tend > to >> get a bit scared when threatened with the expensive, complicated, > dark >> world of the lawsuit. >> >> >> Don't waste a dime or another thought worrying about this nonsense-- >> >> >> But, if you are truly worried and losing sleep over this, go pay a >> lawyer $100 and he/she will tell you the same thing. >> Sent using Hushmail >> On June 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, "Jeff Detrich" <[5][9][19][19]jjdetrich@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Kurt, >> I'm not a lawyer, but you might think about forming a corporation to >> run >> the email list. It's an inexpensive way to protect your personal >> assets >> should this get ugly and I would think most of us would be glad to >> fund the >> cost. >> Jeff - I can't believe we are having this discussion >> 6559 >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Kurt Byrnes <[6][10][20][20]kdb@kbyrnes.com> > wrote: >>> Just so everyone is aware, I was sent another email last night >> warning me >>> to hire an lawyer. 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