Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 13:49:39 -0700 From: [3]asajay@asajay.com To: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Something that might be dug up in the archives... When a certain someone was granted access to the old POCA server as a newly board appointed administrator, one of the first things they
to do was remove disparaging posts from the email forum that they had made regarding a Pantera Vendor. And I mean these were nasty posts. That person had since reconciled the issue and now wanted to remove
James, I'm not aware of this, no. I wouldn't think Kurt would be swayed by Mr. MS into removing any old or existing posts by MS just because they made him look bad. I may be wrong and I think Kurt will let me know. I'm assuming you are referring to the DeTomaso email forum and not the on-line Web forum, or facebook. Kurt, any truth to this? Asa Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 5/22/2016 3:35 PM, James coyne wrote: Asa Jay , Are you aware that that on 5/18/16 Micheal Shortt , in response to a comment about the Detomaso Mailing list archives on the new POCA webste , stated that he was working on having them "purged" so that we (he) doesnt " look like a bunch of grumpy old men " ? Are you aware also that currently the archives have indeed been purged of any posts deemed by Micheal Shortt to make himself look bad including his racist comments about African Americans ? tried the
posts. They eventually contacted me and I essentially told them "once on the internet... always on the internet." And in reality, it's extremely difficult to remove a post from Mailman, especially when it's more than just a day or so old. I seem to recall another certain someone who also works with the aforementioned someone, who also asked for specific posts to be removed from the archives sometime prior to last year's POCA election. I might have that slightly wrong so don't hold me to it. I'd have to go back through my persona emails which now number just over 16,000. Yes, for those who have been counting (not that anybody has) that's down from nearly 20,000 a couple years ago. ;) I myself have made some not so flattering remarks in the past, and I'm sure you can find them in the archives. And you can also find where I've made amends when it was pointed out or I came to my senses on my own. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1][5]http://w7tsc.org [2][6]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 5/22/2016 10:31 AM, Kurt Byrnes wrote:
Excellent point Sean. Please keep things in prospective and remember many services potentially crawl the list and archives so anything you write, any person you disparage, etc. are potentially saved for the world to see and google. I'm CERTAIN the POCA BOD is doing what it thinks is best for the club. There are many valid changes they're trying to institute. You or I may agree or disagree with the changes and approach but PLEASE don't write something naming specific people that you wouldn't want written about yourself. It's just a car club. Kurt On 5/22/2016 1:15 PM, Sean Korb wrote:
Just a reminder, the email archives are public.A A I learned 30 years ago that local politics were not my thing except to occasionally hold my nose and vote, plus a little well placed snark :)A A I adore this list though so I'm not exactly pulling out a bucket of popcorn to watch.A Be sure not to be exclusive.A That is the real strength of this community. sean
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Julian Kift [1][3][7]<[1]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well if you only send it to the people you know will provide a favorable response then the statistic become very useful as a mandate to continue ;-) ________________________________________ From: DeTomaso [2][4][8]<[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Thomas [3][5][9]<[3]mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:41 AM To: 'Forest Goodhart'; [[[[10]6]4]4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address
Odd, seems I was not either.A Michael? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow a74 #6328 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[[[[11]7]5]5]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Forest Goodhart Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:46 PM To: [[[[12]8]6]6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] State of POCA address OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No need to send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution list from POCA. Forest _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [[[[13]9]7]7]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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