Jim, good advice. Been there, done that when I developed a leak. Recored it and still use stock fans. While I have new fans, and one of the new laydowns with fans (I won it in 2006 Vegas fun rally) I have seen no need to replace the radiator or fans just for the sake of change. Dick Koch - Atlanta On Jul 5, 2016 12:15 PM, "James coyne" <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote:
Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne From: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov To: larrys@panteraparts.com; owen@tadhgcooke.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone,
I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator?
Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has be en a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no pr oblems.
So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!!
Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> Regional indicator for USA
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso-bounces @server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock < larrys@panteraparts.com<mai lto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.d etomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection
On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso-bounces@server.detomas olist.com> on behalf of owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote:
Guys i need advice please
I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here
rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful
i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright
does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice
best regards owen cooke
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net
To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto: chrisvkimball@msn.com> , "'MyCars'" <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of Americ a'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net<mailto: 002301d1cf05$f29 e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . .
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris
To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor.
Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto: chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars ' <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America ' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto: SNT404-EAS234 F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently...
Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . .
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris
To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor.
Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________
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Jim, good advice. Been there, done that when I developed a leak. Recored it and still use stock fans. While I have new fans, and one of the new laydowns with fans (I won it in 2006 Vegas fun rally) I have seen no need to replace the radiator or fans just for the sake of change. Dick Koch - Atlanta On Jul 5, 2016 12:15 PM, "James coyne" <[1]tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: A A Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . A A If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances A A that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it A A serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be A A repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne A A From: [2]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov A A To: [3]larrys@panteraparts.com; [4]owen@tadhgcooke.com; A A [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator.A Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine.A Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has be en a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great.A Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no pr oblems. So how long can it last?A A 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: [6](818) 393-6261 Cell:A A A [7](818) 653-8213 Fax:A A A [8](818) 393-3147 [9]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[10]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> A Regional indicator for USA From: DeTomaso <[11]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[12]detomaso-bo unces @[13]server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <[14]larrys@panteraparts.com<mai [15]lto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[16]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[17]owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@serv [18]er.detomasolist.com<mailto:[19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> " <detomaso@server.d [20]etomasolist.com<mailto:[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[22]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[23]detomaso-bo unces@server.detomas [24]olist.com> on behalf of [25]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[26]owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: GuysA i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in trafficA even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fansA but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine frontA and it read about 160 degreesA until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in readingA even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regardsA owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [27]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[28]detomaso-re [29]quest@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [30]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[31]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [1][32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [33]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[34]detomaso-req uest@server.detomaso [35]list.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [36]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[37]detomaso-owner @server.detomasolist .com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: A A A 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) A A A 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) A A A 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) A A A 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) A A A 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) A A A 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for [38]www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) A A A 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for aA '74 (Michael Barnes) A A A 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for aA '74 (Mike Drew) A A A 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for [39]www.poca.com/join A A A A (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[40]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:[41]mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[42]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:[43]chrisvkimball@msn.com> >, "'MyCars'" <[44]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[45]mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of Americ a'" <[46]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[47]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@[48]comcast.net<mailto:[49]002301d1 cf05$f29 e1ed0$d7da5c70$@[50]comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . .A Well, in one sense at least.A Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .".A So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.A I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[51]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[52]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[53]mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[54]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[55]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car.A Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [56]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[57]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> From: [58]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[59]mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [60]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[61]DeTo [62]maso@server.detomasolist.com> [2][63]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[64]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:[65]chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <[66]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:[67]mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars ' <[68]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[69]mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America ' <[70]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[71]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:[72]SNT404-EA S234 F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:[73]mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:[74]chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:[75]mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:[76]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . .A Well, in one sense at least.A Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .".A So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.A I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[77]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[78]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[79]mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[80]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[81]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car.A Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [82]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[83]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> From: [84]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[85]mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [86]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[87]DeTo [88]maso@server.detomasolist.com> [3][89]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.