
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on
Well they paid $10K for the truck to get a 133,000 mile eco-boost engine out of, when they got it out it looked like it had been driven through every ranch in Texas! I can't believe some sucker will pay 6 figures for this, but then doesn't he generally lose money anyway? This Pantera does not show on the docket or in the results for the BJ Northeast auction held end of June, so maybe there is a non disclosure until the show has aired. Even so you'd expect some noise out there from people at the auction, I found a video of his Ford Gt going across the block and a list of 12 cars he had there, no mention of a Panetra though. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:36 AM To: 'Pantera Mail List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard; He was expecting a "six figure" sale price. He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget! Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high budget, maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron! (truth being even for the low budget, I would NOT let them do it) If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ stage? Joe/NC From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM To: Mike Drew Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR. So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking. Julian _____ From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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