Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models

24 Jul 2016


      Just to follow up. I found the frayed wire on the right front pad.  Changed to the Porterfield pads at the same time.   I'll make another post with pictures of the steps that weren't easily understood in changing pads on a Pantera.  Most of you veterans know well, but for rookies like me the pictures are helpful 😉


Dennis Valdez
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On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Jim Wallace <pantera_4220@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dennis,
I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I had really bad wheel juttering.  Make sure you test them thoroughly before possibly taking them to the track for a track day.
Jim
From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
To: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> 
Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "Pantera List detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have
  some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's
  time...
Dennis
On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith
  <[1]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the
  steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the
  lamp.
Marshall
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-------- Original message --------
    From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
    <[2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
    Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
    To: Mike Drew <[3]MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "Pantera List
    [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
    <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
    Thanks Mike,
    So here is my problem.  I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake
    hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac
    Restorations.  Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works
    great except the pad sensor light now stays on.  I was expecting the
    shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that
    did not happen.
    I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly
    new from looking at them last year.  The sensor wires were zip tied
    to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines.  I'm
    wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how
    they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines.
    I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a
    bit and see if the light goes off.  Any other Ideas?
    Thanks,
    Dennis
    > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6]MikeLDrew@aol.com>
    wrote:
    >
    > Dennis,
    >
    > You got it exactly right!  Those two lights cover those three
    functions.
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
    <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>  Hi Folks,
    >>  Got a simple question.  What are the two warning lights left of
    the
    >>  Speedo on the L model?  The red owners manual is not clear on
    this as
    >>  it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number
    call-outs
    >>  are suspect.
    >>  The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for
    general
    >>  hydraulic failure in the system.  I think the lower one (yellow)
    is a
    >>  brake wear sensor light.  Anything else that triggers these?
    >> <FullSizeRender.jpg>
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Just to follow up. I found the frayed wire on the right front pad.
   Changed to the Porterfield pads at the same time.   I'll make another
   post with pictures of the steps that weren't easily understood in
   changing pads on a Pantera.  Most of you veterans know well, but for
   rookies like me the pictures are helpful

   image1.JPG
   image2.JPG
   Dennis Valdez

   On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Jim Wallace <[1]pantera_4220@yahoo.com>
   wrote:

   Dennis,
   I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I
   had really bad wheel juttering.  Make sure you test them thoroughly
   before possibly taking them to the track for a track day.
   Jim
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   To: marshallgsmith <[3]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>
   Cc: Mike Drew <[4]MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "Pantera List
   [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
   <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
     Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have
     some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's
     time...
     Dennis
     On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith
     <[1][7]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
     This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the
     steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the
     lamp.
     Marshall
     Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
       -------- Original message --------
       From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
       <[2][8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
       Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
       To: Mike Drew <[3][9]MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "Pantera List
       [4][10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
       <[5][11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
       Thanks Mike,
       So here is my problem.  I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake
       hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac
       Restorations.  Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works
       great except the pad sensor light now stays on.  I was expecting
   the
       shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but
   that
       did not happen.
       I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are
   nearly
       new from looking at them last year.  The sensor wires were zip tied
       to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines.  I'm
       wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how
       they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines.
       I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a
       bit and see if the light goes off.  Any other Ideas?
       Thanks,
       Dennis
       > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6][12]MikeLDrew@aol.com>
       wrote:
       >
       > Dennis,
       >
       > You got it exactly right!  Those two lights cover those three
       functions.
       >
       > Mike
       >
       > Sent from my iPhone
       >
       >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso
       <[7][13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
       >>
       >>  Hi Folks,
       >>  Got a simple question.  What are the two warning lights left of
       the
       >>  Speedo on the L model?  The red owners manual is not clear on
       this as
       >>  it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number
       call-outs
       >>  are suspect.
       >>  The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for
       general
       >>  hydraulic failure in the system.  I think the lower one
   (yellow)
       is a
       >>  brake wear sensor light.  Anything else that triggers these?
       >> <FullSizeRender.jpg>
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