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Original EU GTS for sale in Germany
by Patrick HALS 29 Sep '16

29 Sep '16

Further to Mike Drew's post on the Forum, I informed about that red EU GTS for sale at Thiesen in Hambourg. The manager is a real fan of panteras, and has been racing factory 2873 at Le Mans Classic at least twice The car was very clean, fully restored, and moderately priced for a Euro GTS ( 119.000 euros, i.e. 133.500 USD ) The car sold in three days.... Best to all ! Patrick Candy 2862 - ADA 9628 - EU GTS 2902 Further to Mike Drew's post on the Forum, I informed about that red EU GTS for sale at Thiesen in Hambourg. The manager is a real fan of panteras, and has been racing factory 2873 at Le Mans Classic at least twice The car was very clean, fully restored, andA moderatelyA priced for a Euro GTS ( 119.000 euros, i.e. 133.500 USD )A The car sold in three days....A Best to all !A Patrick Candy 2862 - ADA 9628 - EU GTS 2902

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Fwd: Re: Oil Leak Fixed. What Torque?
by Dave Londry 29 Sep '16

29 Sep '16

My collection of other peoples Torque info, these 2 agree at 10 ft.lb. Needs a 1/4 drive torque wrench - you're in the weeds with the tension spring fully unwound if you use 3/8. (I have a bunch nor added yet - another roundtuit job) Dave On 2016-09-14 12:36 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: > Hey Pantera Guru's, > I finally got to my Pantera last night. (work is getting in the way of > my fun!!) > Simple fix. ALL my valve cover bolts were loose. Every one of them. > I tightened them all > but didn't want to over tighten them. Anyone know what the correct > torque should be? > I have roller rockers and the taller Ford Racing valve covers for > clearance. > Your thoughts? > Terry > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > > Dawn Spacecraft Team > > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead > > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > > Fax: (818) 393-3147 > > [1]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov > > References > > 1.mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. My collection of other peoples Torque info, these 2 agree at 10 ft.lb. Needs a 1/4 drive torque wrench - you're in the weeds with the tension spring fully unwound if you use 3/8. (I have a bunch nor added yet - another roundtuit job) Dave On 2016-09-14 12:36 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Hey Pantera Guru's, I finally got to my Pantera last night. (work is getting in the way of my fun!!) Simple fix. ALL my valve cover bolts were loose. Every one of them. I tightened them all but didn't want to over tighten them. Anyone know what the correct torque should be? I have roller rockers and the taller Ford Racing valve covers for clearance. Your thoughts? Terry "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [[1]1]thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov References 1. [2]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li nks above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis t messages. References 1. mailto:1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 2. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Beautiful Gr4 clone for sale
by Mike Drew 29 Sep '16

29 Sep '16

Hi guys, Longtime PCNC member Lee Hinkley has decided to sell his little-used Gr4 clone. This car was built 30 years ago but still looks terrific! He has an ad in the current PCNC newsletter which can be downloaded from www.panteraclubnorcal.com Asking price is $90k but negotiable. Happy shopping! Mike Sent from my iPad

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Fans and shroud
by Jack Donahue 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

Hey all - A few weeks ago I was talking asking The List about radiators - all said-and-done, I decided on the Hall radiator, since I wanted brass/copper instead of aluminum. And, yes Mike Drew, I have to admit it’s because I want to, not necessarily NEED to. It ain’t broke, but I am fixing it(?). Didn’t want to admit that, but...Lol. There really is an ulterior motive, but I just don’t want to mention it right now; but I ran my idea past Brassworks - who says they will “build-to-suit” - but the Hall unit looks to be “tried-and-proven”. Now - fans. I really don’t know the brand name of my fans, but they are suckers - about 12” diameter - and the blades are “curved” - sickle-shaped. The names that been bouncing around are Mariah, SPAL, and Flex-a-lite. I had read someone’s post about the Flex-a-lite’s since they said they can be - or are - mounted in a shroud that is a perfect match for the Pantera radiator size. I think. And someone offered-up a part number, but I deleted (or lost) it. All normal for me. So - I am ready for opinions/suggestions: jack #4348

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Carb
by Trip Owen 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

Can someone suggest a carb. for stock 351 Cleveland with Edelbrock intake? My old Holly is not delivering fuel - I know its getting there - checked front float, was not stuck.......did the usual - inline filter, pump check, carb. filter........ don't want fancy upgrade - just plug and play is fine - Trip 88' GT5S Can someone suggest a carb. for stock 351 Cleveland with Edelbrock intake? My old Holly is not delivering fuel - I know its getting there - checked front float, was not stuck.......did the usual - inline filter, pump check, carb. filter........ don't want fancy upgrade - just plug and play is fine - Trip 88' GT5S

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Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Red Paint codes
by bill gaino 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

The oranger red is a spitting image of Audi G6 Mars red. I could not get my paint supplier to mix the original color in urethane, so they just matched it. Bill 1362 https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fref=ts If you want it slick. www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook -----Original Message----- >From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >Sent: Sep 27, 2016 9:38 PM >To: edducati(a)mac.com, DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Red Paint codes > > In a message dated 9/27/16 10 35 50, edducati(a)mac.com writes: > > I know this may be an old subject and one that has probably been > answered before. > What is the 1972 Pantera Red paint code and the cross reference to a > modern paint like Ditzler Deltron, Glasurit, etc. > From what I understand there were two reds? a darker red and orange > red? > > >>>Ed, > There were three reds according to the Ford parts book, although one of > them is the burgundy used on the '73-74 USA-model GTS, which doesn't > really count. > The 1971 cars were painted differently from the 1972 and later cars. I > think the 1971 red was a purer, more Italian red, while the '72-74 red > had more of a tomato flavor to it. > All the paint codes in the attached file are, as far as I know, > completely obsolete, at least in the USA. I think Roger Brotton in the > UK has had luck getting matches made there? So maybe you have a > fighting chance in New Zealand.... > Mike

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Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Red Paint codes
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

Apropos of nothing, Ford generated a comprehensive dealer sales brochure that touted all the features of the Pantera for 1971. Included was a page that had an actual swatch of the vinyl interior material, and paint chips showing all the colors that were available for the 1971 year. Note that there were only two greens, although Aqua Green Metallic appeared in the Ford parts book. I've never seen a US car painted that color, although Wilkinson restored an early Euro pushbutton which was originally that color, and was able to match it.... Mike Apropos of nothing, Ford generated a comprehensive dealer sales brochure that touted all the features of the Pantera for 1971. Included was a page that had an actual swatch of the vinyl interior material, and paint chips showing all the colors that were available for the 1971 year. Note that there were only two greens, although Aqua Green Metallic appeared in the Ford parts book. I've never seen a US car painted that color, although Wilkinson restored an early Euro pushbutton which was originally that color, and was able to match it.... Mike

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Re: [DeTomaso] Iowa Panteras?
by Jim Gray 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

When I last saw the Bupps they had relocated (after retirement) to Kansas City. Jim Gray -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:43 PM To: DeTomaso Mail List Subject: [DeTomaso] Iowa Panteras? Guys, Saw Iowa underwater on the news tonight. I know Chris and Chandler Bupp (regular Fun Rally attendees) live out there. His email (whatcop(a)aol.com) is no longer valid, but he may be a lurker here? Any Iowa guys, speak up and let us know you're okay!? Mike Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Iowa Panteras?
by Mike Drew 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

Guys, Saw Iowa underwater on the news tonight. I know Chris and Chandler Bupp (regular Fun Rally attendees) live out there. His email (whatcop(a)aol.com) is no longer valid, but he may be a lurker here? Any Iowa guys, speak up and let us know you're okay!? Mike Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Red Paint codes
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 28 Sep '16

28 Sep '16

In a message dated 9/27/16 10 35 50, edducati(a)mac.com writes: > I know this may be an old subject and one that has probably been answered > before. > > What is the 1972 Pantera Red paint code and the cross reference to a > modern paint like Ditzler Deltron, Glasurit, etc. > > From what I understand there were two reds? a darker red and orange red? > >>>Ed, There were three reds according to the Ford parts book, although one of them is the burgundy used on the '73-74 USA-model GTS, which doesn't really count. The 1971 cars were painted differently from the 1972 and later cars. I think the 1971 red was a purer, more Italian red, while the '72-74 red had more of a tomato flavor to it. All the paint codes in the attached file are, as far as I know, completely obsolete, at least in the USA. I think Roger Brotton in the UK has had luck getting matches made there? So maybe you have a fighting chance in New Zealand.... Mike In a message dated 9/27/16 10 35 50, edducati(a)mac.com writes: I know this may be an old subject and one that has probably been answered before. What is the 1972 Pantera Red paint code and the cross reference to a modern paint like Ditzler Deltron, Glasurit, etc. From what I understand there were two reds? a darker red and orange red? >>>Ed, There were three reds according to the Ford parts book, although one of them is the burgundy used on the '73-74 USA-model GTS, which doesn't really count. The 1971 cars were painted differently from the 1972 and later cars. I think the 1971 red was a purer, more Italian red, while the '72-74 red had more of a tomato flavor to it. All the paint codes in the attached file are, as far as I know, completely obsolete, at least in the USA. I think Roger Brotton in the UK has had luck getting matches made there? So maybe you have a fighting chance in New Zealand.... Mike

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